pls add at least an option to choose or if that's not possible change it back, ty.

you don't see decimals at all and everything looks like ms-dos 20 years ago...

wow you have known this was coming out for about a month and you choose today to complain about it? Seriously forum warriors?

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Don't care if possible or not I want an option for the old font. This hurts my eyes.

It is currently not possible to toggle between the new font and the old one. While we appreciate that this is something a lot of people are asking for, it simply cannot be done in the current font rendering system.

Soon I will have to wear glasses because of this UI.

Abloobloobloo!

Also, an option to select font size would be nice. We're not all 67-year-olds with sight problems or playing on our 3 mobile mobile phone screens.

I love the new font. It's legible.

So made it possible. Dont you have any programmers?

i don't know how you even can say the new font is much more readable. you don't see dots at all. everything is clustered together due to it's size. stacked items in inventory are absolutely horrible to read... the ammunition count in the mods section is also very unreadable.

granted, for poor eyes it may be much more readable now like the guy said he can now read it even without glasses (btw i would wear the glasses still else you will hurt your eyes even more...)

and it's just pure ugly... now i live also in the philosophy "function before looks" but i find this new font to be both: bad looking AND worse to read... you even have to enlarge the chat window by factor 2 that it becomes readable...

and sorry i would have said something earlier but i was busy playing the game. i play actively since like 3 months and i have still so much to explore i wouldn't even know why i should play on a test server...

edit: i play on 1920x1200 windowed, on my second monitor there is another instance of eve running in 1280x1024, there the new font's are kind of ok as it is farther away from my head to the side but for my main screen it's just

Personally, I hate the new font. I had the old font for 8 years and, it's not so much that theres something wrong with this font, its just that there was nothing wrong with the old font. At least we deserve the option to choose, it has such a huge impact on the game and has completely ruined my overview (atleast for the time being).

Lots of lovely graphical changes (which really are quite something), tarnished by this horrible font.

Either give us a choice, or give us the old font back.

And pinning windows. I liked pinning windows.

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Make a new one then -_-

I hate this Font big time.
I don't know what it is, but my eyes just hurt, if i look at it for more then 10sec...
Why can't there be an option to choose atleast new or old font?

Or if it not possible to make this option - just make a vote on forum keep the new font or get the old one back...

Yes.
Please CCP, add options.
1. New font
2. Old font


principle is the same as with ship spinning.
1. Ship spinning
2. Captain quarters.

I have to post in there.
font size/stile mess

New font makes the game freakin unplayable, and it reset my bloody UI, now i have to reorganise the UI completely, yeah, thanks CCP, for an unreadable font and a reset UI.

Unacceptable.

There's an option in the overview settings to use small font

Just give us the option to choose one of the fonts and everybody is happy!
Is it THAT hard to build in?

It's like ship spinning all over again.

As predicted.

it's a drastic change, but they found the perfect solution with ship spinning even that doesn't impair the gameplay as much as the new font.

just have both possibilities... :)

Mostly i don't complain about a thing, because mostly i will adapt. But serious, give us options, i really hate this font, i tried scaling ui to 90% but thats terrible for me, and font size to 9 well it still hurts.

Isn't there any solution to change the font back ? or make a new system for multiple fonts ? old and new one.
About the rest, it looks so much cooler so keep up the good work

[Mariah carey - all i want for christmas] All i want for christmas is, seriously a new font.

Any change if we go on with complaining about the font, you will change it ? i really don't care if you make a new system with both, but i want the old back.

I'l trade you the old font for a box of Smirnoff ?

- Mila

New font sucks.

Why do you fix things that arent broken?

Sadly, I'd have to agree..
I find all these new additions that came with the patch as super, but this font truly is unbearable.









Although, as much as we whine, nothing will probably be done to cater to our (the minority's) needs.
What I've suspected from my initial weeks of playing this game (and from my participation within the forums) manifested with the introduction of this change: this game is directed towards the blind - old and pretentious - geezers.

Not as futuristic as I envisioned this game to be, sorry.

Like to jump on the "I don't like this Font" wagon as well.

Why did it change?

Wow I have rarely seen more idiocy in a single topic.

The new font went on Sisi a LONG time ago. You choosing now to complain about it now instead of after CCP asked for FEEDBACK when it went on the test server instantly invalidates your arguement.

CCP keep the new font. It is fine.

I played games 15 years ago that let you select the font you want to see. Why is it impossible for a 2011 MMO to have some options?

People have complained since it was first released. CCP didn't care because they are "Fearless".

First thing I noticed after the patch was the horrible new font; I had a stack of 66 ships and the "66" was so blurry I could not read it; in fact all stack quantity numbers are mostly illegible. Also on headings when there is number followed by a right bracket, the bracket is much too close to the number. So after spending most of my gametime trying to figure out how to reset back to the old font I come to these forums and discover that there is no way to change back to the old font.

I am entirely confused by those posting that the new font is better and clearer; at first I thought they were clearly being sarcastic but I am starting to think maybe for some the new font is actually better, but for me it is so much worse and so completely illegible in many situations that I am at a loss for words.

Don't get me wrong, I think the old font sucked and needed to be replaced, I just find it astonishing that it was replaced with an even worse font.

Sign me up on the petition to change back to the old font. New font is sooo bad, I am looking at an 8 and the top circle is larger than the bottom one

On a related note is there a way to change the font for the forums? It seems to have the same or similar font as is ingame.

I never used the test server and never read any reference to the font being slated for change so this all came as quite a shock to find that they changed it to something so bad without giving the option to change back.

1600x1200 is my resolution of choice and I use a 19" CRT monitor with a flat aperture grille.

Sadly the new font is next to impossible to read for me :( I am really struggling to find a clear way to explain it but something about my dyslexia makes it so i have to work out every word character by character rather than being able to quickly look at the word and recognize it.

Anti-aliased fonts would be handy as it would soften the edges making each character more distinct, if I cant have the old font back or toggle between them, maybe we can add that without much effort. I could also really use some Kern spacing control as many of the characters seem to be stuck together making reading even harder. Again maybe that is something that can be added without lots of overhead.

Overall, font is worse for me :(

90% scaling makes things like your gun icon's ammo count numbers look like ****.

The new font is such a step backwards towards the stone age.

I can understand this type of font development when first computers where just invented, but we live 2011 with technology, graphics, interfaces advancing in a very fast pace - each time creating something beautiful and genius, but this font is not it - and totally out of pace.

Looking at this font for the first time I'm thinking "IS THIS A JOKE?"

Font scale in menues, in local window, in right click bookmarks is different everywhere, each time requiring visual re-adjustment.

Font Expert's first priority should be user friendliness and usability - font should scale and be readable in many sizes.

The biggest problem is each area you look at requires visual readjustment, this font is not user friendly - it's hostile.

I think CCP should immediately roll back to old fonts, and let their font expert finish the work on the test server.

I rate this font 1 on a scale of 10.

Old font I'd rate 7 on a scale of 10.

Yeah, I get a very "amateurish" feel to the game now. Might sound stupid but I don't even like the new nebula backgrounds. They aren't very smooth and look poor in quality. The font makes it even worse.

This is just my opinion, but the new font is terrible. My ammo counters are hardly readable now at 1920x1080 resolution on a 24" monitor.

I guess what most of us would like to hear is this isn't the final result, and they are working to improve it asap.
Those of us effected by this font, who are subject to the very real headaches it gives.. proberly would like to also hear it will be fixed before summer, not just soon... :p i love eve too much to quit over a stupid font...

Main problems, its too big... its too wide, it doesn't even fit in the ui as you say it does (look at ammo number under guns), its forcing the ui to actually have less space than before unless you scale by 90%.

Old font had few letters and numbers that were hard to tell apart, but this is kinda worse until you make it scale better :p... just acknowledge you see the problems we are shoving in your faces, and you plan to improve it :D and im sure many of us will be happy

Then start working on a new font tbh. Scaled back to 90% it looks OK'ish (though terrible in window tabs as shrinks beyond readability and all CAPITALS was much better there). But scaling the font back to 90% leaves the icons in the overview AND SPACE all distorted.
The final straw for me was looking at how many torps i had in my bomber only to see "1 132".
I mean guys, start with the OLD FONT and rectify the couple of issues that people (other than me) had with it rather than introducing possibly the ugliest font in any game for the last 2 decades. Thanks.



On a different note, the nice anti-aliased map in system view looks absolutely ******* horrific.

After my first post, I have to say that the new font makes me not want to play eve. It's such a turn away.

It make me dizzy, because it's hard to read and requires constant refocusing. What took a fraction of second to read before now takes a full second to just start reading. Reading is completely counter intuitive. Now takes into mind that each area of interface is at different font size, different scale and different spacing - making it seem like you're reading 10 different fonts - all of which suck.

Our mind can briefly glance at something with normal fonts and get the message, with new font I don't find it possible.

To the opposers of this new font; I've yet to hear an actual valid argument why it is bad. The only one that makes a little bit of sense is that it doesn't (really) fit the game. I do prefer to be able to read easy over a cool scifi font that is unreadable. And there isn't really an option that does both.

And this is what I am paying them to do. If they can't do it right, then they should not have done it at all.

The new font is terrible.

The EVE forum just had a few good posters, this thread proves that one of them didn't actually belong on that list and is thus removed from it.

Actual good posters left: Malcanis, akita T and possibly 1 or 2 others.

Exactly. The issue isn't the font. It's the UI scaling that is messed up.

Nothing constructive to add other than the new font is horrible. I'm not quite sure what it is but the pixelation / aliasing seems off. First I was forced to turn anti-aliasing on (was off and the font was unreadable) but even on high something just isn't working.

I don't think it's the choice of font that is the problem, I think it's a rendering issue.

PS: What I really want is monotype. I like fixed width fonts for displaying tactical information

Edit: Def an issue also with rendering some of the old graphics. For example if I open up a L4 agent and have a mish v. let's say Amarr (at 90% UI) I can't even make out the empire / faction graphics (and I'm on a 1920x1080 23" screen)

The longer I spend with this new... font..... the more I hate it. The numbers in my wallet look completely out of whack, its no longer possible to quickly scan it. The spacings are uneven, the commas miniscule, and the numbers seem to float almost each by itself. Just terrible.

I never had trouble with previous font, and now not only do I feel like I entered some weird EVE-version of a lame powerpoint but I no longer have the comfort of my nice clean wallet, its looks muddled at best.

And they recieved MULTIPLE responses to the quality or lack there of. At least from me they did.

A month ago they had to explain that there wouldn't be an option to use the old font.

Alarms should have been ringing.

Right now I should be messing around with my new tornado and exploring the new nebulae while seeing how long I can make my engine trails.

Instead I'm spending hours messing around with my UI and searching the net for clientside font hacks while keeping an eye out for any dev response.

Which part of "there is a huge thread on the test server forum about people not liking the font, but CCP couldn't be bothered to react to it" didn't you get?

It's a mess I'm afraid. I too solely focused on this scaling clusterbork when I should've been checking out all the new glittery baubles. Sigh. This font looks like the lettering for birthday cards - Comic Sans is indeed the basis for it; or at least it's inspiration. Not a good start sorry. Not SciFi at all.

This though gets me: . OFC it's readable -it's bigger with wider spacing. Stupid. It also takes up more space. Less screen to see spaceships. Grrrrr.......

I'm sure CCP will fix this. What a shame.

@Ris Dnalor I can't wait 'till you quit.

@CCP Thank you for the new font. I didn't realize I hated the old one until you presented me with this. Another small thing in the heap of win that is Crucible.

I actually had to stop playing. The new font gave me a massive headache. I don't know if it's the font itself, or maybe just not used to it, but I couldn't take it anymore and closed the game.

Ris, you are a tidal wave of tantrum.

What do you LIKE about Crucible.

I for one like the new font, thank you CCP.

Your Ipad?? Mobile Phone?? 25000 seat multiplex?? plain old PC??


Ris Dnalor stop it!!!

Ris Dnalor - give us a break purlease.

as we can see the new UI is inferior thanks to this.

yes the new font makes the game unplayable

I have to agree with this, but the font is pretty bad.

Supporters: "I can finally read it!"
Detractors: "It's ugly, amateurish, not scifi, wraps poorly, giving headaches and clashes with the EVE art style."

Again why the old font couldn't have been optimized for clarity* rather then scrapping it entirely for a rush job is beyond me.

(* Seriously? People had troubles reading it? Playing since 2005 no problem. If your upset because you need your glasses to read it: thats exactly what your glasses are for. We have poor vision, deal with it.)